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Book - The Baby Laundry for Unmarried Mothers
« on: 08 April, 2012, 12:23:56 PM »
This came up on 'recommended' on Amazon. It sounds like the convent  where Joan in 'The Sugar Girls' was sent to have her baby. http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Baby-Laundry-Unmarried-Mothers/dp/1849834903/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

It looks like a good book anyway. Not Newham-specific, but I'm sure Newham had its fair-share of girls sent there.


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« Reply #1 on: 11 April, 2012, 10:10:13 AM »
I can't wait to read this - it sounds fascinating.  Although from what I've heard the nuns in this one were a lot meaner than the ones Joan went to stay with.  (Although it was obviously a very hard time in her life, she described them as being very kind, and said she actually quite enjoyed staying there and making new friends!)  It sounds like a fascinating story, anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: 05 December, 2012, 04:35:17 PM »
   Hi Mark & Duncan B.,
   I do not knowof this book, but I am sure it has been on T V  in film form or at least a similar story.??????

   The way those girls were treated in that Laundry and soppose Home made me weep.

   Then at the end thier dear Babies were taken away by uncaring monsters that were supposed to be of a religious order???

   Have seen this same film several times and always thought it to be of Irish origin, although I am sure the same
   went on here.

   When discharged I hope thier Scars were able to heal over many years?

   Louise.

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« Reply #3 on: 06 December, 2012, 10:08:50 AM »
Hi Louise,

I think there was a similar thing on TV recently set in Ireland where the 'sinners' were treated like dirt. I remember reading in Victorian times, some women were commited to asylums for getting pregnant 'out of wedlock' - a farce really as we all know a lot of the 'gentlemen' in that period had double standards where that kind of thing was concerned.

Mark

PS - I know this this was only pushed to the top by a spammer posting (since deleted by admin) - in this case I will forgive them as I had forgotten about this book. I will see if the library can order it - along with "over the border - the other east end" book  :D

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« Reply #4 on: 06 December, 2012, 05:49:27 PM »
Its rather shocking that this kind of treatment of pregnant girls survived as long as it did, and that so-called religious were such active participants in it. In my family there is a similar story, but from very much earlier, where an illegitimate child was taken into "care" by nuns in East London and her mother allowed very rare visits. At age 10 she was moved to Southampton, making maternal visits almost impossible, where she had to work in the laundry for a few years before being shipped off to the USA. The dividing line between religion and sadism is a very narrow and blurred one, even today Or perhaps more today than before, now we know so much about sexual abuse of children by the religious.

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« Reply #5 on: 08 December, 2012, 01:28:21 PM »
jplant1
How I agree with your post 100%

And it is such a pity people are only just waking up to these dreadful happenings but will it all be brushed under the carpet as usual.
Espescially when any big names begin to appear.  These we are told of lately are just the "Tiddlers" in the pond.

How many of us sent our children off to the Sunday Schools and Church Clubs etc., with pennies in hand for the poor or African's Water Supply?? thinking they were being taught good things?

Thank goodness my Daughter attended such places that I (knew the organisers and helpers well) even so it  makes
you wonder. 

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« Reply #6 on: 13 February, 2013, 09:43:11 PM »
I think the most harrowing book I have read on this subject is one called"empty cradles"I didnt realise that these laundries were still running until at least 1970!!
another one moves from london!

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« Reply #7 on: 12 August, 2013, 06:50:00 PM »
I had forgotten all about this one, but I went into a charity shop in Broadstairs today (Thanet Cat Club  :) ) and there it was for 75p  :D

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« Reply #8 on: 21 August, 2013, 07:28:28 AM »
The TV film was The Magdalen Girls I believe, there was a second film, Oranges and Sunshine which was based on Empty Cradles, about the children who were removed from British Barnado's and other homes to Australia to work on farms, this was going on into the 1960s and was completely appalling.

This alone stands a read http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2011/07/oran-j14.html

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« Reply #9 on: 21 August, 2013, 10:31:09 AM »
I watched the Leslie Sharpe episode of 'Who do you think you are' last night. Her great-grandfather fostered 2 Barnados boys. One of them was from Custom House. The mother had died and the grandmother was looking after him and his siblings. Obviously she was struggling as Barnados took them when she was due to put them in the workhouse. They were obviously separated as just the one boy was fostered by Leslie's, then, 85 year old granddad. When he was 11 he was packed off to Canada to work on a farm (it ended well as he ended up marrying the farmer's daughter :) )

Mark

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« Reply #10 on: 16 September, 2013, 12:59:04 PM »
I am finally reading this book. It does have a bit of a Newham connection as the author was born in Forest Gate in 1943. By the time she had her baby, they were living in Loughton. It mentions places familiar to many of us - ie Ilford Palais.

She also worked in the city for a shipping company - very similar to my mum's job in the late 50s, working for a sugar broker in Leadenhall St (Czarnicow)

It seems strange that when all this happned was only 15 years or so before I used to go to The Palais - incredible how times changed in the 70s.

Mark
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« Reply #11 on: 20 November, 2013, 09:58:51 PM »
I hoped your mum enjoyed the book Brenda :)

I saw the new Judi Dench film today, Philomena (On at Canterbury Odeon) which has a similar theme. I had no idea what it was about before I went. I just went to the pictures to kill time between a bank appointment and a hospital appointment - BUT, it was an excellent film. Again, not really Newham, but gives an idea of how badly treated pregnant girls were by the church and their families.

Mark

I can't recommend this film highly enough - it really does have you laughing one minute and have 'smoke in your eyes' the next.
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« Reply #12 on: 12 August, 2014, 05:12:30 AM »
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