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Historical Newham / Re: Wives of Henry VIIIth.
« Last post by harry on 05 March, 2019, 09:22:49 AM »
What about Howards road Plaistow???? Regards Harry.I.
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Historical Newham / Wives of Henry VIIIth.
« Last post by DougT on 04 March, 2019, 07:54:43 PM »
I watched an interesting couple of TV programmes on Channel 5 on the last 2 Saturdays regarding the wives on Henry V111th. Quite easy now to remember the order, Divorced, Beheaded, Died, Divorced, Beheaded, Survived. We all know the "connection" with Boleyn Castle, Boleyn Pub and The Boleyn Ground and many of us will realise that some roads off of Barking Road were named after his wives. Arragon Road -  wife 1 - Catherine of Arragon, Boleyn Road - wife 2 - Anne Boleyn, Seymour Road - wife 3 - Jane Seymour. Cleeves Road - wife 4 - Anne of Cleeves, Parr Road - wife 6 - Catherine Parr. But does anyone know why wife 5 - Catherine Howard did not have a road named after her? I know there is a Howard Road East Ham in the Bonnydowns area but would have thought that the houses in that road were built considerably later than the roads near the football ground where the mainly Victorian houses were demolished in the early 1960s so no idea why Catherine Howard was omitted unless it was anything to do with her life style pre-marriage.
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Historical Newham / Re: West Ham Buildings
« Last post by MickG on 04 March, 2019, 04:52:26 PM »
This is another picture I came across on the Britain from Above website taken. Due to the amount of detail in the picture, I have split it in two.  It shows Canning Town north of the Barking Road and stretching all the way to Stratford. Being taken immediately post-war, extensive bomb damage can clearly be seen. To assist getting ones bearings, The Royal Oak and Canning Town Public Library in Barking Road can be seen centre bottom of the picture. The Peggy Leggy steps can be seen to the top left and if scrolled right, the as yet undemolished Trinity Church and be seen on the corner of Hermit Road. Hilda and Pretoria Road Schools can be seen top centre (right).


In the second picture Manor Road Buildings and the Memorial Recreation Ground can be seen. I think the white dots on the recreation ground may have been connected with the WW2 AA Battery that used to be there.

This particular thread was well subscribed to in the past by previous members, and hopefully if they still have the same email addresses, they should receive an email notification.

Scroll right to view more of the image.


Canning Town North Barking Road - Hilda Road School (https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW000652) required copyright licence notice


Canning Town North - Hilda Road School - Stratfford
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Historical Newham / Re: West Ham School of Building
« Last post by KenM on 04 March, 2019, 03:37:34 PM »
Thanks Mick, what a cracking photo of West Ham School of Building & surrounding area.
I can remember cycling from Custom Hse & passing lots of waste ground that had been cleared of bombed buildings & terraced houses that were ripe for demolition & the photo shows this perfectly.
Wow! that photo brings back many memories.
Ken.
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Newham memories and nostalgia / Re: understanding the past history of newham ,.
« Last post by biff on 04 March, 2019, 08:54:51 AM »
Hi All

If the location on the Britain from Above website is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it, then I estimate the centre of the cross
is pretty much on the eastern boundary of what is now Calverton Primary School.
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Newham memories and nostalgia / Re: understanding the past history of newham ,.
« Last post by MickG on 03 March, 2019, 12:21:08 PM »
This aerial picture of Royal Docks taken in 1946 from the Britain from Above website kills two birds with one stone. On one hand for those that either worked in the docks, or are interested in Newham's Industrial history, it shows just how busy the docks were with shipping in the immediate post-war years. For those of us with grandchildren, one can show just how busy the docks really were.

The other feature of this picture is the site of KenM's long await query about the barrage balloon on Vernon's Fields. The Blue marker on the top right of the picture expands when using the  Britain for Above website to reveal the words, "WW2 Anti-Aircraft Landing Deterrent Ditch and Mound". Provided Ken knew where this was located, he should be able to triangulate the position of the barrage balloon.

(scroll right to reveal more image)

Royal Dock 1946 (https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW000056) required copyright usage licence
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Newham memories and nostalgia / Re: High Street, Stratford
« Last post by harry on 03 March, 2019, 11:41:51 AM »
Thanks Mick for the very informative explanation of the stirling work done by the Fire brigade in instances such as these obviously its not just about spraying water on a fire!!. We should all be thankful for the work done by all involved in the fire fighting service .  Regards Harry.I.
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Newham memories and nostalgia / Re: High Street, Stratford
« Last post by MickG on 02 March, 2019, 12:19:10 PM »
I said earlier that the crews that initially attended Ronan Point about 5:30-6:00, were completely knackered when they returned to the station after 9 am. I only got the chance of a brief chat with them then as I was part of a crew required to immediately replace them. It was not until some days later that particular watch came back off leave and we were able to chat more properly as our watches swapped over.

As you can imagine when the first two crews initially arrived together at Ronan Point, it was a scene of devastation with bits still falling from the building. They had no way at that time of knowing if anyone else was in the building or whether the building itself was going to collapse further. The officer in charge immediately sent a short coded priority message by radio which meant he was asking for a lot more help in a big way. No explanation is required in these messages as when the OIC says he needs a lot of help, he gets it.

They then raced up the internal staircase with a couple of them stopping at each floor while others went to the floors above, to evacuate anyone that may have still been inside the building. They simply kicked in the front doors with their fireboots to gain access. Due to the urgency of the situation, there was simply no time to politely knock on the door and wait to see if there was an answer. Some of the doors towards the top led to open air on the collapsed side. I have run up to the top of some of these flats before to get access to lift motor rooms when someone was shut in a lift, and I can tell you its knackering. As more machines from adjoining station and some specialist machines from further afield rapidly converged on the scene with senior officers, other messages were sent requesting the police shut off all access from surrounding roads except for emergency vehicles. The London Fire Brigade also had a one mile air exclusion zone set up around the incident. This was because news helicopters started appearing and it was feared their vibrations could cause further collapse. The task of my crew when we arrived was to try and determine if the was anyone still missing as at that it was still unknow how many people if any were still trapped under the rubble. The rubble by the way was till mainly large slabs of concrete.

Once it was established that everyone had been accounted for and surveyors had determined the building was unlikely to collapse further the fire brigade left the scene. Other welfare agencies are involved in the emergency re-homing of those suddenly made homeless.



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Newham memories and nostalgia / Re: High Street, Stratford
« Last post by harry on 02 March, 2019, 11:38:09 AM »
Hi  Mick Your story  re Ronan Point disaster brought back memories to me ,I believe the explosion took place at 6 o clock in the morning the reason  I remember the time was at that time a chap that lived opposite us in Varley road was painting the front of his house. After the explosion he  could be heard shouting to his  wife that the whole side of the flats had collapsed and within minutes fire engines could be heard rushing to the scene .And within minutes most of the neighbours were up and dressed standing in the road looking at the frightening site of the collapsed side of Ronan Point a sight hard to forget!!!.  Regards Harry.I.
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Newham memories and nostalgia / Re: High Street, Stratford
« Last post by poppy show on 01 March, 2019, 08:55:26 PM »
Hi Mick , those  photos of stratford brought back memories i could see my old primary school bridge road, it shows the playground on the roof, i still recall watching the steam trains from the roof. Happy days around there then :)
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