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Historical Newham / Re: East Ham Salvation Army
« Last post by ed styles on 21 May, 2018, 10:07:25 PM »
Doug ,
         sad news that, was that your old church ?. Different world nowdays with churchs having to multi task as goodwill centres and shops and cafe's ,even having to share there church with other faiths as you know happened in Barking .
The church that seems to be steaming ahead to me , is the Gospel choir type , must admit was a bit surprised to see one at the Royal wedding , but hey they were great .

All the best Ed
Sporting Newham / Re: West Ham stadium main gates
« Last post by MickG on 20 May, 2018, 09:56:28 AM »
Jason, I have been looking for colour pictures of West Ham Stadium but have found it to be a difficult process. Internet search engines also tend to mainly find West Ham Football Stadium and although I am quite good at using filters to exclude many pictures of WHFC, many are just entitled West Ham and to excluded those words from the search criteria also excludes pictures of the stadium itself. The other difficulty is most pictures of the stadium were taken at a time when colour photography had yet to become affordable and most cameras were of the box brownie type.

Although its another B/W picture, I have come across this aerial one of the stadium which I have never seen before.

Sporting Newham / West Ham stadium main gates
« Last post by Jason Steele on 20 May, 2018, 09:30:45 AM »
Thankyou to all those who have replied to my two posts on here. I am after a bit of info..... the model I am making of the stadium is well on its way to completion and I am now stuck on a certain area. I have only ever seen a black and white photo of the sign 'WEST HAM STADIUM' above the main cream gates in Nottingham avenue. I just presumed the wording to be black but am now wondering if the letters were in illuminated red, either the whole wording or the stadium word underneath. If anyone is able to remember how it was it would be of great help..... even better a colour photo showing it!
Historical Newham / Re: East Ham Salvation Army
« Last post by MickG on 16 May, 2018, 10:46:51 PM »
Doug, I am sorry to hear that news. I know that you are a dedicated Salvationist and that news must be something of a bitter pill for you. I just hope however the work of the S.A. will still continue on regardless. I know they have an excellent record for locating members of broken families with the hope of reuniting them with their loved ones.
Historical Newham / East Ham Salvation Army
« Last post by DougT on 16 May, 2018, 07:16:09 PM »
It is with sadness that I advise that East Ham Salvation Army Citadel in Wakefield Street will be closing it's doors for the last time in July 2018. Although The Salvation Army operates in 128 countries it has found it's operations in the UK to be very challenging over the past 30 years particularly in those areas where the demographics have change considerably. The SA has also experienced far less people willing to be trained as full time SA Officers and, whereas over 100 entered the Training College at Denmark Hill each year in the 1960s that number has now dropped to around 20 to 30. In Newham there used to be SA centres in Stratford, Plaistow, Canning Town, Upton Park, Silvertown, Manor Park and East Ham but the imminent closure of East Ham will leave only Stratford as being operative.
About the Forums / Re: Vernon's barrage balloon
« Last post by KenM on 15 May, 2018, 05:22:43 PM »
Hi Harry, I believe the barrage balloons were flown high enough to force the jerries higher than they planned, this would have diminished the accuracy of their bombing. (That was the theory)
Now a correction. I must apologise to the ladies of the WAAF, it was they that crewed the balloons, not the ATS as I incorrectly stated, sorry ladies.
About the Forums / Re: Vernon's barrage balloon
« Last post by harry on 15 May, 2018, 04:23:04 PM »
i think that photo that mick posted must have been taken just after the start of the blitz as I believe that the Victoria docks area seems to be still smoking from an original raid.
Also ican see from the photo that there is no visiable bomb damage to the turnings of Jersey  ,Mortlake and Varley roads which were bombed quite extensivly some time during the blitz .I
I personally believe that barrage balloons were used after the initial blitz was under way and I cannot remember any German planes being brought down by these balloons.
Another thought did they have to work out how high the enemy planes were flying and adjust the height of the balloons  to suit??
The balloon site  can remember was on the recreation ground at the junction of Becton road and Prince regents lane and that site was used for scrap timber from bomb damaged buildings just after the war where you could take your home made hand cart to load up with timber to use for fire wood.
Regards Harry .I.
About the Forums / Re: Vernon's barrage balloon
« Last post by KenM on 13 May, 2018, 12:09:07 PM »
Hi MickG, great aerial photo of Custom Hse with Vernons sports field clearly defined.
The barrage balloon was tethered to the rear of a 3 ton lorry so easy & quickly moved.
The accomodation was of small single storey living area & toilets was prefabricated also quickly erected.
The most distinguishing feature that would have been visible from the sky would have been the circular black cinder track that surrounded the camp.
Historical Newham / Re: Place names
« Last post by KenM on 13 May, 2018, 11:47:02 AM »
Hi MickG, by the look of some of the clothing, I would guess these photos were taken long before my time in Beckton Park.
My visits were confined to the Lido or the fairground. For a general kick around or game of cricket it was Vernons sports field.
Historical Newham / Re: Place names
« Last post by Laramie on 12 May, 2018, 08:06:01 PM »
Many thanks for your posts , especially the photos of Beckton Park.
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